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Post by Yump on Oct 15, 2007 22:33:20 GMT -5
the dream team is going to be the same 5-6 people every time they shouldn't even get a prize.
Imo Clel could lead a team of Rommiels to defeat the dream team.
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Post by laura on Oct 16, 2007 8:47:26 GMT -5
actually i only leave when its ctf sumo , and whenever thor is IN it z.z , except of that i never left
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Post by gladius on Oct 16, 2007 12:10:48 GMT -5
There is about a half dozen extremely good ctf players. Another dozen of good ctf players. Another dozen of decent players. And the rest are pathetic, horribly pathetic.
Dream teams are overrated. I could easily assemble a team to beat them, if those players got on more often than they do now.
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Post by MysticX2X on Oct 16, 2007 14:06:50 GMT -5
IMO i dont think there really is any good ctf players. If you're decent to good in sparring, you have good defense, if you like to run away (laura) during spars, offense is your position. I dont believe ctf really requires skill since most of the time its luck you get past someones d because to the opposing teams misfortune that they made mistakes. Only thor could possibly be somewhat of a very good ctf player but he has his reasons that he is.
Thinking if you have ibo or trip on your team really makes you think you have this in the bag, then youre terribly wrong. I can think of 5 differnt people who i believe could pull off a nice D on my team if there was trip to choose from to but really due to the fact i refuse to have that scum on my team.
Maybe if you have thor on any ctf map except small, future and gravity, youd have a more percentage of winning but i have beat thors team in ctf before. And no gladius i dont leave every ctf im not winning. Your ctf was the first i left in like 2-3 months.
And kiss my ass yump. Any rommiel could blast your ass in a spar.
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Post by Thor on Oct 16, 2007 14:28:48 GMT -5
You have never beaten 'my' team if you mean captaining, i have only ever lost once when captaining a CTF and i was a random cap, lost the toss, nobody decent available to pick etc.
My stats just got reset again but yesterday i was at 10 wins and 1 loss, which is extremely good form, not all of these were CTF sumos, and infact ctf gravity is my favourite game type.
One player can not win a game by themself, but maybe 2 if both have an extremely decent game, once had me and Trip on the same team with 2 noobs against Clel, Lyzix, Jet and Maximus, i recieved absolutely no attacking support whatsoever and when defending the 2 noobs kept getting roasted, Trip put in some last ditch defending, i had to stay back under the pressure and also put in some last ditch defending and could only go to attack once the pressure had been disposed of temporarily, i scored all 8 while we conceded 7 so it was still close.
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Post by MysticX2X on Oct 16, 2007 15:10:16 GMT -5
I doubt ctf gravity is your most best one since you cant lag past anything on that.
And i dont think i have ever versed you when both me and you are captains but i dont think youre impossible to beat.
And clel and jet seemed to be the only two good/decent people on that team so i dont know what type of point youre trying to bring up there.
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Post by Thor on Oct 16, 2007 15:41:48 GMT -5
This was a CTF Sumo, Lyzix is great at CTF sumo, probably the next best scorer after myself. Maximus combined with Jet and Clel is a great defensive barrier.
I can't literally lag through in any game either, i see the server accurately just id doesnt see me too well, i still have to go around people and i still hit their sword swings.
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Post by MysticX2X on Oct 16, 2007 16:03:56 GMT -5
i dont believe this good scoring mumbo jumbo. Its either the opposing defense is poo or not. I can only admit you can get past most performances of defense. But i cant say much for others. Thats why i care for defense alot.
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Post by gladius on Oct 17, 2007 9:00:36 GMT -5
Defense wins championships.
And mystic, there are plenty of good ctf players. And skill does take part in it.
You can get almost anyone to stand in the middle of the path and slash a sword. Good defenders will be able to take multiple hearts off an attacker usualy prevent them from getting the flag.
Offense takes some luck, but can use skill also. Luck can happen when the entire defense goes after someone else, or maybe no one is there and you can just walk up and get the flag. Sometimes you have to fight your way tooth and nail to get in and out. A smart offensive player will know where to exploit gaps and how to get out of sticky situations.
Really the thing I value most is what I call "ctf instincts". You have to just know what to do in certain situations. I'm not saying that you're going to get it done everytime, but if you know what to do, you have a better shot at pulling it off.
People like lyzix, trip, clel have good ctf instincts. These are just a few examples.
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Post by MysticX2X on Oct 17, 2007 9:09:19 GMT -5
if youre a good sparrer defense is a sinch. I can do both defense and offense because most of the time the defense on the opposing team sucks and slashes like noobs.
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Post by triptelvecho on Oct 17, 2007 10:10:02 GMT -5
CTF in a nutshell for the tards:
THis has nothing to do with luck. If youve played me in Sumo/Large i have a defense set up. Much like in a play book. When teamed with Ibo or Luda on defense....i wont be stopped. THEY KNOW the basics on how to stop ppl b4 they get the flag and after.
Thor can hop skip and jump his way through offense, and Clel shows some serious moves when getting to the flag (most likely only person i have trouble stopping o ther then thor)
Now if u have an offensive Duo like Clel and Jet who assist each other (rather thasn laura who waits for her team to die, then go for flag)....the assisted scores are WAY ez to bring back flag
AKA Clel goes in for flag, Jet clears out defenders, as clel runs out Jet gaurds him entire way for the score. 9/10 times if u follow my coaching in a CTF....ill bring u back a Gold Medal+ 1-2 tickets....im not sure, but i believe i lead CTF with most shut out games. also average 11+ returns a game
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Post by Thor on Oct 17, 2007 10:35:53 GMT -5
Decent - Clel (all round), Trip (defense), Rob (attack), Ibo (all round), Me (all round when needed). Good for lag attacking only - Night, Xaphan, Death Kazama Good - Lyzix, Jet, Laura, Drake, Chaos, Tobi, Luda, Gladius, Kill, Zero - only Gladius, Luda and Jet are reliable defenders.
Everyone else - Average or poor.
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Post by MysticX2X on Oct 17, 2007 12:19:46 GMT -5
LOL at this seriousness about whos good or not. poo i play for the fun of it and won the past 5 except leaving glads ctf for my reasons given but my team did win kinda.
anywho sorry i dont believe attack has skill at all. Its the defense ****s up or not.
And i dont think i let down my team with defense before
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Post by laura on Oct 17, 2007 15:00:25 GMT -5
mystic = 0 skils in ctfsumo , its not luck or waiting the opposite team do a mistake, u must have dodge skill (me and thor) , u mystic cant tell who good and who suck since all u do is leaving games
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Post by MysticX2X on Oct 17, 2007 15:08:05 GMT -5
Laura i got past your nooby ass slashing in a ctf sumo i lost but still had 3 flags. And you arent skilled, i dont think you could get past my defense at all unless the other defender is poo.
And thor cant really say hes a good ctf player because if any of us had thors connection, we'd rape sumo, indoor, large, anything that requires a defense.
LOL AT BRAGGING SKILL ON A EVENT ON GRAAL.
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