Just read it, dont be a bitch

[tatsi]

I know rufus has seen this already, so he knows the deal.

"The PWA has been given the insurmountable task to decide who survives and who dies. This isn't going to be popular with many of you but people have to stop trying to live in the past and start coming up with ideas that are new and fresh. They have to spend the time to make good graphics and good content rather than trying to revive something that died from lack of interest in the first place. They also need to focus on a core set of servers, each with its own individuality and work toward common goals."

Think what you want of this quote, but basically, if classic staff and development dont start putting real work in, classic goes byebye =P. And with what ive seen, the GCs dont give a poo, GP certainly doesnt give a poo, and Dev isnt pumping out quality work, so i think we are saying bye to our beloved server soon.

and a quick mod to this, just want to make clear this also doesnt just mean classic goes, any server not putting out work goes, we are just one of them.

[gladius]

Bender: "Are we boned?"

Lela: "Yeah, we're boned."

[MysticX2X]

BELL WON'T SHUTDOWN CLASSIC LOL. SHE IS TOO AFRAID.


If she wanted to do something, it would be appropriate to fire Master Storm or something. That and she really was part of the development team last year when they made semi-big releases.

[kill]

Classic's staff is an absolute joke, the whole server needs a shake up from top down.
Shutting it down will atleast make those in charge realise the current predicament.

[Gemini]

Monthly releases would be better than yearly releases.

[tatsi]

Well alot of suggestions have been made to them right? From all of us, and i for one havnt seen alot of those put into place. They keep telling us things are being worked on that we cant see...well ya thats WD working on fixing things within the server, nothing anyone can see.

Thats not good enough though, all im saying is, they better start putting something out, anything, but alot of that, mini quests, quests, a bunch of items, who cares if they are useless, we'll just play with em all, i also feel a bigger map would help, more land to explore, its an adventure game, give us something to adventure on.

[Death Kazama]

I hope Classic stays...it's the only server I like to idle in.

[Rufus]

I'm not really sure if Classic would really be effected by this. I assume that people like Master Storm will notice that there is a risk of being removed and log on more for the duration of the risk. He's already doing it now and it's pretty obvious as to why. The dev staff will probably release as much trivial content as they can make, such as the map system which we didn't really need, just so it looks as though they're doing something. Classic then can say "look, Master Storm is active and we release content!" but once the risk is over it'll just go back to how it was.

On the other hand, servers such as Atlantis have also made a lot more content than Classic has, but the players don't like it and they don't have any players either. It's obvious that Atlantis would be brought up as one of the servers to remove, and I think that it'll be going too, so if Atlantis is then I don't see how Classic would worm its way out of it realistically.

Master Storm told me that there is always the option of hiding the server, taking it off the list and developing it privately, but to me I don't really think he's in the position of bargaining. The development team clearly feel confident in their abilities, so I think that it would be really interesting to see if they can bring Classic back if it goes off the list and under private development. Of course, you're messing with the server people used to enjoy, but if people don't bother with it anymore then what's to lose? We already lost the fun Classic.

[tatsi]

Hmm..indeed rufus indeed. Har, but seriously, i agree with you, but if the dev team is so confident in their abilities, why havnt they showed them yet? Recent changes that can be seen by players are the map system, and WD is now asst dev admin...server saved yet? No. They better start struttin their stuff real soon or i feel classic will be removed, i dont think it will be given the chance to go private, we have had what....billion years now?

[gladius]

I assumed they didn't release things at a constant rate because they had a "big plan" where things needed to fit together so they waiting and built stuff up until it was all ready.

Then someone laughed at this idea saying thor doesn't really have a 'master plan' or anything.

So we're probably screwed.

[MysticX2X]

BUELLER

[xaphan]

Most of the things released have no replay value, they were fun for about 5 minutes (Fishing Rod, Bowling, Mini-Games). They could've been done so much better but they appeared rushed and buggy, don't give me "well it's still content that was released" crap either, that's no excuse for bad quality. This is the 4th year I've been a Graal player but mostly a Classic player. In those 4yrs it's gone backwards, I didn't even know that was possible but Storm, Thor and co managed it somehow.

Somehow I think the only way forward for Classic is to take it down, redo it from bottom-up and re-release it, but I kind of fear that it may not come back if it's taken down as there are so few decent developers left, and the current developers who are working on Classic as it is are severely incompetent. I want it to improve and move forward but I don't see it happening with the current staff, they're clearly out of touch with the demographics and are trying to appease a minority who don't even seem to play or care anymore.

[Rufus]

At the moment I don't even care if it comes back. It needs to be put out of it's current misery as it is pretty painful to watch. If they can revive it later on then that's great, as long as the server is decent again. What we certainly don't need is content out of desperation for keeping the server. It'll be (dare I say) worse than what we current have.

[xaphan]

Just making it clear that this isn't a solo attack at Thor, this has been going on for a few years now.

[MysticX2X]

The only thing I'd miss from Classic if it were to shutdown one day would be CTF and a few other events. Lol sorry but I'm being honest.