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Post by cetellic on Sept 25, 2008 17:16:01 GMT -5
Your point was already refuted, so pulling that out means I win. A) Well if you don't know if Mighty pwnz or not then it is an experiment. If you know Jade sucks and you pick her it's not an experiment, since you know how she'll effect the team. You're so clueless. You still haven't got it yet...
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Post by gladius on Sept 25, 2008 17:30:37 GMT -5
Aside from the fact everyone who's played ctf recently knows mighty is a beast and jade sucks so the only reason you'd pick her is because she's the best player available (+ she can sometimes score, as shown by the ctf sumo game where her team flawed mystic 10-0, jade scoring 8 of the goals). Now if you pick jade instead of mighty...A) experiment B) wtf? C) you need serious mental help.
And if the person doesn't know that...then they're noob and they shouldn't be captain.
Why does it feel like we're going in circles again? Cause clel won't give up the fight.
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Post by cetellic on Sept 25, 2008 17:36:19 GMT -5
Clel wins, before you even made you tier list I suspected mighty was a beast, I picked him to see if it was correct, we flawed. Clel = debate champion, can I go now?
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Post by gladius on Sept 25, 2008 17:41:20 GMT -5
You can leave any time.
Obviously you don't need a tier list to tell mighty is good. You can play with/against mighty to tell he is good. You don't have to pick him to "experiment" to see if he's good.
Again you didn't address the rest of the post.
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Post by cetellic on Sept 25, 2008 17:52:54 GMT -5
You don't HAVE to experiment? Doesn't change that experimentation was done. Resulted in a flaw. ~*~*~*YOU GOT PWNED*~*~*~
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Post by gladius on Sept 25, 2008 17:57:25 GMT -5
Like I've said several times, picking mighty is NOT an experiment.
Picking mighty is a smart, competitive move.
*knock* *knock* Anyone home clel?
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Post by cetellic on Sept 25, 2008 17:59:50 GMT -5
Reply #45 says hello =D You want to keep stating what experimentation is NOT? LMFAO PWNT!!!
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Post by gladius on Sept 25, 2008 18:02:10 GMT -5
So you claim that picking mighty b/c you don't exactly know how good he is is an experiment?
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Post by cetellic on Sept 25, 2008 18:06:28 GMT -5
Close, picking mighty to see if he's really as good as you believe would be a experimenting.
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Post by gladius on Sept 25, 2008 18:09:07 GMT -5
Like I've said several times, picking mighty is NOT an experiment. Picking mighty is a smart, competitive move. Wrong again clel. You don't pick mighty to actually see how good he is. You pick him because he's arguably the best player available in all games and is going to go a long way to your team winning the game.
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Post by cetellic on Sept 25, 2008 18:13:51 GMT -5
Wrong again? We're still arguing to see if I'm wrong haha. Lets see here...
You put him as high tier, on the same level as Mystic/me/Yourself ect, obviously you didn't know Mighty was that good and in fact only changed it when you saw matches of him AFTER I told you he was top tier. I wasn't even sure at one time, which is why I experimented with him and got a flaw. LOLLERSKATES... too easy partna! Lets see what crap you come up with next ; )
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Post by gladius on Sept 25, 2008 18:17:35 GMT -5
TBH hadn't seen mighty in a while (had the tag of 'not playing as much anymore'), so after a few games it was clear a change needed to be made. I never said the tier list was final nor perfect. I've said the opposite many times.
However you still can't make a point that you "experimented" by picking mighty cause it ain't an experiment LOL said that 5 times now.
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Post by MysticX2X on Sept 25, 2008 18:18:55 GMT -5
I've told you what you needed to do to take the debate. If you want to fool around, dodge questions, take stuff out of context and call it facts you're only wasting everyone's time. You two are not helping the GC team by debating for your own selfish reasons. Lets piece it together... Debate started with Mystic wanted to debate Kill not being higher then him, ego trip? It expanded from there to the "WELL WTF ONI AINT THAT HIGH JUST CAUSE HE LAGS", now the lag debate is in. It wasn't until Oni ran wild and I corrected you on your mistreatment to Cat where you Gladius got pissed "WTF YOU DON'T EVEN HOST NO MORE STFU", it's stuff like that to me is like blood on a shark's nose, you want to debate? It's on! So there we have it, we debate. You tried to defend your actions against Cat, then you tried to say "well they were against Cat's actions", you should've said that from the beginning firstly and secondly it's still against Cat, no matter how many little sub categories you put it in. The whole time I knew why you felt entitled to hang on despite being defeated "well everyone else is with me on this so we can't all be wrong right?". Which is why eventually you went with your whole "power of the people" thing. Saying the people have your back, well where are they? I want to see them, so I can hand each of you your @sses at the same time. I'm the one who let Oni kick you and Mystic's tail, and now I have you and Mystic debating me in complete immature fashion - it doesn't take a genius to figure out why, it's pure grudge material. Like this: Before the Oni inccident - Also @ Clel. The only real issues I had with the list was having Kevin in high tier, and having Crono so low. After the Oni inccident - I don't use/look at/care about the UGCC. What does it say? Since no tier list is official other than mine. Clearly. Especially clel's pathetic excuse for a tier list. And just look at the nature of both of you guys' posts, you guys have something AGAINST me. Look at my posts, I don't know how to debate people who just won't admit defeat, who are out to get me instead of trying to weed out the greater good. You guys stated tons of false statements, I can quote them all + explain why they're false if you want me to, but you'd debate it for sure "NO THAT WASN'T FALSE NU HUH" or make up excuses "Well I did that cause you were doing that". You guys can not / will not prove your case that laggers are unfair, so there's no point in fighting it to begin with since you cannot win unless when someone asks for proof you can present it. For one, you're a ****ing dumbass. The Lag issue was ALWAYS an issue in CTF. It was thor back then, but Oni filled in his shoes. Now the game Oni defeated Glad and me, he was really laggy then. And he got past our 3 man defense like no other normal person can do. I dont care if he gets hit easier, he has backup to knock us back so it will cancels out. Some stuff can be against Cats rights, but sometimes we hate to see such a bad CTF. Maybe one day, we will see Cat as a good captain, but all he does is call GC's corrupt like we are supposed to host for him all the time perfectly -- as if he is thinking we're getting paid-- and admits to not even helping his team. All team captains are supposed to be one of the best, respectable, players on the team, as Gladius has said. The only right point you had was us being wrong for not always giving Cat or some noob a captain. But let's look at the statistics: How many Ctfs has gone better hosted by me or glad than with you sticking to your lax law? A lot. Your Ctfs have poor outcomes, which show how poor you can take control and quality of your event. Your tier list was bad. For heavens sake, you had Chelsie as high tier when her pc is poo half the time and she doesn't even play that event! Though you like all the attention and like pissing us off by ignoring everything we tell you (If anyone knows Cali, you are just like him) and blabber on your own rebuttals which you think are correct because you been in this gig for 3 years. 3 years and you still have horrible judgment. I seen tappers in your events and you didn't even know what the hell was going on.
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Post by cetellic on Sept 25, 2008 18:19:48 GMT -5
To experiment is to test, you had to test mighty (actually see him play) before you threw him up to top tier. LMFAO, I didn't even need my brain for that one hahaha
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Post by cetellic on Sept 25, 2008 18:24:00 GMT -5
Ah an assault from Mystic =)
I lagged before lets see.... you, Thor, Gladius, even played Classic's CTF... it wasn't a "you're kicked" issue then now was it? Oh wait that was before your time ; )
Hey you guys say my events suck and junk like I'm getting paid to host, shoes on the other foot and you're hissy fitting hahaha ; )
Why is Darkus high tier... LOL PWNT HAHAHAHA LMFAO!!!!! I MEAN JUST FUXIN HILARIOUS!!!!
I've seen tappers in yours too Mystie boy =) lets settle down before we become hypocrites shall we ; ) Hahahaha
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