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Post by cetellic on Dec 11, 2008 1:31:56 GMT -5
I'd be pissed if they thought the giants simply "won" a game. Most people aren't that ignorant Clel. Most people realize there are steps that go into an accomplishment like that. Most people, clel. So you're saying that within my statement you somehow knew "OH CLEL YOU DON'T REALIZE THE STEPS AT ALL, YOU JUST DUMBFULLY ASSUMED YOUR NPCS CANCELLED THE EVENT ALL ON THEIR OWN!!!", but I told you shimmy and Laura stopped playing because of the NPCs which caused the chain reaction, you go NU HUH, then Mystic, then Shimmy, then Laura, all testify that you're wrong... I wasn't responsible however for the npcs you left in the level. That was your fault, was it not? You were hosting not me, therefore the continuation of the event was in your hands, despite what obstacles come your way. Clel's NPCs were enough to cause a chain reaction in which outmatched Gladius' hosting capabilities LOL!!! Impossible. Something simply can't exist all of a sudden. And it sure as hell can't always be here, since time would have had to start somewhere. God exists outside of time and space =) come on the existance of God is 70:30 in your favor you don't even have to be cheap about this one... anybody should be able to shoot this down in seconds lawls scrubby Gladius I've made so many mistakes and I'm still dominating this junk ROFL? Shouldn't you be taking an advantage of how half ass my responses are? ;D How can I say I'm done with these broken debates? 90:10 in my advantage and junk LOL, competing against you in a debate that shouldn't even be a competition LMFAO... and you're being cheap about em too LOLOLOLOLOLOLLERSKATES!!!!!
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Post by kill on Dec 11, 2008 5:43:11 GMT -5
Pointless arguments to make time fly by... If only you people were intelligent enough to realise this is just wasting your time while you could be doing something much more efficient... but whatever, i'm not going to be your father using a belt on you (in Mystic's case)... to get off the comp
... Oh come on, I had to.
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Post by gladius on Dec 11, 2008 7:45:31 GMT -5
Actually you said the npcs themselves caused the event to be canceled, which is clearly not the case. Besides, you leaving the npcs in the level caused the chain reaction, whether you accept it or not sir is your choice.
The event was in my hands but the npcs were out of my control since I could not delete them for some reason. Thus when people complained I put the event in their hands and they voted to remove them, but we all know how that one went.
Rofl that is the dumbest thing ever. If it doesn't take up matter, it doesn't exist. Case closed.
The only way this debate is broken is if we put a mirror in front of it and you looked at it. Clearly if you wanted to end the debate and take the blame for leaving the npcs in the level, you could. But right now it doesn't look like that is gonna happen now does it?
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Post by cetellic on Dec 11, 2008 8:09:14 GMT -5
Actually you said the npcs themselves caused the event to be canceled, which is clearly not the case. Besides, you leaving the npcs in the level caused the chain reaction, whether you accept it or not sir is your choice. I could've left them in there and without you hosting CTF Future they wouldnt have been a problem. The direct problem is them interacting with you (because you hosted CTF Future, and I had left them in CTF Future), that is how they cancelled the event because the actions there after where a result of the collision between you and the NPCWs. You can say I did it, laura did it, you did it, shimmy did it... it'd all be correct. The event was in my hands but the npcs were out of my control since I could not delete them for some reason. Thus when people complained I put the event in their hands and they voted to remove them, but we all know how that one went. The NPCs were an obstacle, not all obstacles will be in your control as you've seen. You are still responsible for your event however. Rofl that is the dumbest thing ever. If it doesn't take up matter, it doesn't exist. Case closed. Prove it. The only way this debate is broken is if we put a mirror in front of it and you looked at it. Clearly if you wanted to end the debate and take the blame for leaving the npcs in the level, you could. But right now it doesn't look like that is gonna happen now does it? I already took blame, talked to Thor about it, fixed the problem, way before I even made my post which you attacked. Therefore to say "but right now it doesn't look like that is gonna happen now does it?" while referring to such is stupid and generally spewing bs is it not?
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Post by cetellic on Dec 11, 2008 8:22:09 GMT -5
If only you people were intelligent enough to realise this is just wasting your time while you could be doing something much more efficient... It's a brain teaser and mindless entertainment from Gladius trying to argue his way out of a hole he's dug? I dont know what made Gladius become such a douche but oh wells, I have uses for people like him ;D
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Post by laura on Dec 11, 2008 8:47:38 GMT -5
lol gladius , u knew clel's npc were there and u never asked to get them off in the start only after 2 goals
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Post by gladius on Dec 11, 2008 9:18:32 GMT -5
As I said before (shocking) ctf future is played with items, so when the game started I pondered why I had these new npcs, as did everyone else. It wasn't long until I saw clel's npcs in the corner that enabled them in the level. Since they were items and no one had really said anything negative early on, I let them be used with the other items. After a while people started to dislike them, and eventually this led to the vote, which came up yes. Had it occured to you laura, why it took me so long to remove the npcs? It took so long because I couldn't delete them. Luckily thor was there and was able to do it after a few minutes.
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Post by gladius on Dec 11, 2008 13:06:15 GMT -5
As you said yourself, GCs aren't supposed to leave npcs lying around. You fought tooth and nail over it, and as a result my statues weren't supposed to be on the overworld despite their benefit. And now you're saying my interaction with them was the problem? If they hadn't been there in the first place, an interaction would have never taken place. If they weren't there, Laura and Shimmy would have never stopped trying because they were removed in game. But since they were there and were removed via popular demand in game, they caused a problem. Thus it can be reasoned that since if had they never been there, no problem would have occured, and thus the problem was the items being left in there and not the interaction between the GC and the npcs.
You are still responsible for your npcs however. I did my job by hosting an event, and the last thing I expected was there to be some random npcs left behind by a GC who earlier crusaded against such a thing happening. I was in control of my event. You weren't in control of your leftovers.
If its not there, its not there. The bed you sleep on exists because it is made up of matter. The computer you type on exists because it is made up of matter. Something can't exist beyond time and space because it wouldn't be made up of matter. Why don't you try and prove it does exist with actual facts rather than pointing to an old book and taking in every word like a sponge.
If you truly accept blame for this, why do you continue to make posts that claim the 'interaction between gladius and the npcs' was the cause of the problem? Clearly you don't accept the blame, otherwise this debate could end right now. Here's what you can do clel. In your next post, stop trying to make glad look like the bad guy. He simply did his job hosting, but ran into complications when a GC decided to leave some npcs in that level. The majority of the people voted to remove them, but sadly the minority cried about it and decided to ruin the event, thus resulting in cancellation. You say you've already taken the blame, so stop posting otherwise kthx.
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Post by MysticX2X on Dec 11, 2008 15:36:43 GMT -5
wow gladius can u shut the **** up yet.
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Post by gladius on Dec 11, 2008 15:42:22 GMT -5
Mystic, you should be on my side! You didn't get to score that goal because shimmy+laura stopped trying because the npcs were removed because the majority voted for them to be removed because clel left them in the level in the first place!
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Post by MysticX2X on Dec 11, 2008 16:39:03 GMT -5
ya i told clel to shut the **** up too but you only stopped cuz i wasnt scoring fast enough to end the pooty game. Clel is an idiot. His npcs ruined a ctf future previous to that one where he left his npcs.
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Post by gladius on Dec 11, 2008 16:58:24 GMT -5
Fair enough.
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Post by cetellic on Dec 11, 2008 17:23:11 GMT -5
You see, I caught you offline and it was easy rapage... you summed it up simply "If you post I post"... meaning you have no point or purpose with this but to cover your wrongful rear wrongfully ;D
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Post by gladius on Dec 11, 2008 17:49:19 GMT -5
If that's your definition then so be it. My definition of "if you post, I post" is that when you post something attaining to what we were talking about, I'm going to post back, which is why these debates never seem to end. But lets face the facts clel. I didn't cancel the game because your npcs were there. I didn't cancel the game because people didn't like the npcs. I didn't cancel the game because people wanted the npcs removed. I didn't cancel the game because the npcs got removed. I canceled the game because people stopped trying on the red team. This is clearly different from your statement of: also LOL @ my weapons cancelling a CTF... my bad Until you're willing to accept that, it seems this debate will go on.
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Post by cetellic on Dec 11, 2008 18:03:31 GMT -5
Well we already agree you canceled the event because the lack of will to play on the red team. You gotta read my posts and understand my position.
My weapons killed that CTF in the same fashion CTF Graal City killed CTF Madness... the lack of will from the players makes the event cancel and everyone logs preventing Madness from continuing, but we all know what to blame, and who to blame. I did both in my statement - blamed the NPCs and took responsibility for them... they caused you trouble, they threw you into a tight spot, and you eventually canceled the event because of the effect they had on your players.
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