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Post by Gotenks on Nov 3, 2008 21:54:48 GMT -5
host someone.......
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Post by cetellic on Nov 3, 2008 21:59:24 GMT -5
Not by the hair of my chinny chin chin!
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Post by Gotenks on Nov 3, 2008 22:05:48 GMT -5
so umm y do people log into the forums but never log on classic?
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Post by cetellic on Nov 3, 2008 22:14:32 GMT -5
cuz if they get caught actually on graal around their family they'll get stoned to death...
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Post by Gotenks on Nov 3, 2008 22:16:10 GMT -5
Death gets high alot...
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Post by gladius on Nov 3, 2008 22:45:04 GMT -5
Sorry guys, just speaking facts got boring again... these debates last so freakin long I can use like 50 different personallities before the darn thing ends! It's like those movies where the bad guy JUST WONT DIE FOR GODS SAKE!!! I take it I'm the bad guy here since I'm gettin' double teamed =D Not sure where you're getting "twin dragons" from. First off, I'm a dino and he's a bear. Second, mystic really isn't involved, he just throws out point he thinks are important. Are they? Meh, that's for the you to decide. Did that even have to be said LOL... look clearly at your response to my response to... MYSTIC?!?! OMG!!! From now on, Mystic pops up I aint respondin LOLS. Not the moral book, this is such a waste. Look dude when you play a game it doesn't matter if you saved lives, if you suck at the game you suck, ain't no "well I didnt sacrifice five teams to get here" will do anything. I was uber good before and no one was like WTF CLEL BUT YOU SACRICED TEH TEAMS MAN!!! Moral books lawls, Gladius just wont understand, it's all good though =). Here we go, I'm not talkin' "FULL HEALTH, GENIUS DEFENDERS", I'm talkin the average bunch. I'm on offense, I see 2D, I'm confident cuz I know it's likely to be cake and 90% of the time before I can blink I'm outta there with flag on like 3 HP. See it's not even a refute but a misunderstanding and assumption based on the misunderstanding. I can point out why this is a waste all I want lawlers, it aint gunna end. 4D business? All I can say is Laura for Goddess. Deo's got my sundays, Laura's got my saturdays. I was on D in large 8v8, we got 2D, she gets in our base right? Like 5 people on offense die and try to keep her in. We block her ass, some dude on one gets pwned and she squeezes through, then I start singing Eye Of The Turtle LMFAO. Clogging helps teh laggers, I see it all the time. You won't see me squeezin through, McFatty ain't skinny enough. CTF LEAGUE SEASON 1 SAYS HI BUDDY. Those matches were four on four, why didn't we get our tails DOMINATED by your team? We only had two D wtf! There must be some kind of gap there =( You guys did have 2O and Thor was one of them right? Long time ago can't remember =*( I feel sorry for all the lives I just let down. Quick example: I think it was like 6v6 sumo a while back. I was in front on defense and Ares was in back. Occasionally we had someone to assist us but mostly it was just us 2. Our defense was rock solid throughout the game, since if I ever made a mistake, Ares (+ other) were in position to mop up my mess. If they got past ares (+other) going in, they'd still have to get past ares again (+ other) on the way out, not to mention getting past me again. The more people involved, in theory, the more people the lagger has to get through/around/by. Stand back! As I activate my "hey no clogs wtf!" trap card. Clogging is tougher to do with less people. Besides there was only TWO d for the most part (one of the conditions needed for the trap card to work), and that extra assistance can (believe it or not) still happen 4v4. LOL acting serious for so long only makes being hilarious so much more fun =) man it's so cool how that works out. *flinches as ball comes his way* Can't you tell I'm too fat and nerdy for B-Ball? The captains used to never pick me =( now I have a drastic everlasting fear of a basketball image, oh the horror! Usually I wouldn't quote what you said but it was on the other page at this point. Ya just try to ignore mystic. Clel obviously it's a game. But it's a game we're all burning our valuable time on this 2d game. So try not to waste our time, even if we are already essentially wasting it. TBH I missed half our team's matches because of playoff football, so I don't know exactly what went down. But anyways, the point is the lagger will have the edge in 4v4 most of the time. A quality defender can sometimes handle a lagger when his lag is toned down. If thor has his lag powered up to say, over 9000, then we're all doomed. Luckily for you guys, he wasn't able to power up in time to own you guys. Sorry but I have Jinzo out there. He disables all trap cards. Like I said, we occasionally had a person or two to assist us when they died/respawned. The point was, the attacking lagger had to go through many layers of defense. Sucks for you cause I'm a good assister in basketball. |
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Post by MysticX2X on Nov 3, 2008 22:52:02 GMT -5
*intercepts ball* Clel is not accepting all facts. Okay, lets see how. This is incorrect I've hosted against what I've displayed here tons of times. I've played against what I've displayed here tons of times. Intentional or not is not the point. It's the degree. If they push it out of hand, intentional or not, they're kicked. Hmmm, i recall you hosting CTF games the complete opposite. I'll let you figure out what games. They didn't get better out of it. You put them on a poo team. How does that make someone better? By making them feel as their team isn't serious? Your point failed and they all thought you were a poo captain and wanted off your team. As for ignoring me, go ahead. I pop in whenever my comment is needed. Gladius isn't doing a great job as his views are extreme. Don't take me serious or not, but how can you call yourself serious? You are obviously doing this to gain attention or make yourself look more of a fool. I may not be apart of this debate, but i did start it by refuting your silly tier list. |
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Post by Death Kazama on Nov 3, 2008 23:37:39 GMT -5
Yeah so what does that got to do with anything?lol |
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Post by Gotenks on Nov 3, 2008 23:40:30 GMT -5
Yeah so what does that got to do with anything?lol cuz if they get caught actually on graal around their family they'll get stoned to death...  |
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Post by Death Kazama on Nov 3, 2008 23:42:47 GMT -5
Oh lol I get it
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Post by Gotenks on Nov 3, 2008 23:49:53 GMT -5
xD
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Post by cetellic on Nov 4, 2008 5:54:27 GMT -5
Clel obviously it's a game. But it's a game we're all burning our valuable time on this 2d game. So try not to waste our time, even if we are already essentially wasting it. Who cares. If it's a game mechanic, it's possible. Stop hissy fittin for peeps sake, we got enough little girls on here. TBH I missed half our team's matches because of playoff football, so I don't know exactly what went down. But anyways, the point is the lagger will have the edge in 4v4 most of the time. A quality defender can sometimes handle a lagger when his lag is toned down. If thor has his lag powered up to say, over 9000, then we're all doomed. Luckily for you guys, he wasn't able to power up in time to own you guys. Am I talking about "Thor with ultra power lag"? Personally I don't know where his lag was at. Babies always runnin to other junk lawlies. Then again how would you know if you weren't there buddy? Point = 4v4, you guys had lagger, you guys got creamed, whether you were there or not you know you guys lost atleast. LOLOLOLOL go ahead Gladius. Sorry but I have Jinzo out there. He disables all trap cards. Like I said, we occasionally had a person or two to assist us when they died/respawned. The point was, the attacking lagger had to go through many layers of defense. Jinzo huh? WHERE?! I didn't see you say "Well there were clogs and they worked out GREAT!!!" At max you only had four people on d, which could happen OMG couldn't that happen on 4v4? Where's Jinzo dude? Tell him to stop hidin already. |
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Post by cetellic on Nov 4, 2008 6:09:08 GMT -5
Hmmm, i recall you hosting CTF games the complete opposite. I'll let you figure out what games. you say "IT HAS TO COME OUT", now you're trying to run to "well some games", and no of course you're gunna point to the worse of the worse and go "Clel's theory must've been involved O.O" when WTF GCs have little to do with how if their CTFs go great or not. Here, since your CTF Sumo yesterday was purely CRAP your lose the debate there, I win. YAY!!! See it's stupid. They didn't get better out of it. You put them on a poo team. How does that make someone better? By making them feel as their team isn't serious? Your point failed and they all thought you were a poo captain and wanted off your team. Well point already countered aint it, I recall countering that junk already, anyone here remember me countering the point of WELL THEY WONT GET BETTER? Even if what you say is true, which it's not, it doesn't matter HOHOHOHO!!! See you and Gladius waste so much time with this kind of crap LOL. I GOT IT! Bad debaters think alike  As for ignoring me, go ahead. I pop in whenever my comment is needed. Gladius isn't doing a great job as his views are extreme. Don't take me serious or not, but how can you call yourself serious? You are obviously doing this to gain attention or make yourself look more of a fool. I may not be apart of this debate, but i did start it by refuting your silly tier list. Whenever your comment is needed? Why is it needed? Am I some sort of devil or somethin? If I pin Gladius down to the point of no return will I take his everlasting soul?!?!?! Mystic's totally the girl running to her hero going "NOOOO!!!! DONT LOSE!!!". No wonder Gladius never loses despite being wrong, he got a cheerleader, I need one of those. Hey Gladius where you get the cheerleader? Ebay? Tier list debate wasn't even that big LOL, and I pretty much agree with you LOL, LMFAO, MYSTIC JUST WONT EVER GET IT! Seriously guys, hit me with yo best shot! Why you guys come up with the easiest junk to refute and go "THIS IS AN INTELLIGENT STATEMENT, ALL POWERFUL, WE GOT YOU TRAPPED NOW CLEL!". In fact I never see traps from you guys, you're just not skilled debaters =( and the freakin matchup is always in my favor. |
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Post by cetellic on Nov 4, 2008 6:43:44 GMT -5
Tackling the main two debates =)
1 - U CANT SACRIFICE YO TEAMMATES HOMIE
It's not a waste, I merely pick a team and play. If they wanna go "WE'RE JUST GOING TO LOSE SO THIS IS A WASTE OF MY TIME" why should I have to pay? I do use teamwork if they work with me, and I've been on dozens of bad teams (yes recently) where the people playing worked with me. We eventually brought it back into one of those cheesy "WE DON'T CARE IF WE LOST, WE'RE WINNERS AT HEART" because our crap team grew so well so fast. Of course, Mystic still slewed the same o "OMG THAT THEORY STINKS YOU NEVER WIN". Some people like it, some people don't. Never let those who don't like it ruin it for those who do like it and vice versa, rather then prevent one from happening allow both to go down if their conditions are met. I understand BOTH SIDES, I'm one of the captains who granted even teams. So I also agree with both sides. Having it flow never blocks anyone off, and to block person A off while person B is scott free "just cause he agrees with the GC" is not fair.
2 - 4v4s, 8v8s, and laggers.
What's the biggest complaint held towards laggers? "OMG HE LAGGED THROUGH". If I can't lag through people the more on Defense the harder it's gunna be, assistance or not. If a lagger can lag through all they gotta do is get assistance and they just might lag through for a score. Not to mention laggers get even laggier with all the players in the CTF System at once... =(
Anything else you guys want me to address?
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Post by gladius on Nov 4, 2008 8:36:30 GMT -5
1) Again clel, it's not about you. It's about the fact you're wasting everyone's time by picking a crap team. Since the probability of you guys getting owned ez is high, it just doesn't make sense to even try it. You're wasting the time of the players involved. The "winners" didn't have to do much to win, and the "losers" couldn't do anything to slow them down. It's more or less a lose-lose for both sides.
2) 4v4 means at most 4 defenders. This means getting in and out, the attackers will have to get through up to 8 people. If it's 8v8 that means getting in and out, the attackers will have to get through up to 16 people. Simply put, 8v8 leads to the possibility of a higher number of defenders you're going to have to get through.
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