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Post by gladius on Oct 7, 2008 8:25:29 GMT -5
Sheesh looks like Clel and gotenks keep getting mad on these forums.
Ruh roh.
Don't get mad, get glad.
1) Like I said jade has no skill and no sense of teamwork, and without her lag she would likely never score.
2) You said it yourself. You took a risk of "it" happening in the ctf sumo game where you tried to hit him up into the water when he was coming back with the flag. Pretty sure that qualifies as a fail.
3) Trident had a longer range than a sword, which gave kevin an advantage btw.
4) Because he cost us that goal? Because we could slash at his character for ever and not actually hit him because he was halfway across the level? Because he could hit you when you weren't expecting it? Yes we won, but it was definately wierd trying to combat him.
5) I'm glad, you know that. Bitching about a call isn't always being a bad sport. Take the Washington vs BYU game earlier this year. Wash scores a TD with 3 seconds left to tie it up, the QB throws the ball over his head in celebration, and gets a penalty for "unsportsmanlike conduct". Thus the extra point (to tie it) is moved back 15 yards....and BYU blocks the extra point and costs wash the game. The flag was very ticky-tacky and questioned all over ESPN for the next week. Was Washington being a bad sport about it? No. They simply questioned why they were cost a fair chance to win (or in this case tie) the game.
6) Technically I separated the two. The first sentance alone addressed the "indoor1" comment of yours, while the rest of the paragraph was aimed at your "indoor2 w/ no items" comment.
7) Expect the unexpected. First off, GCs can change their mind. Second off, items might have been left off from last time indoor2 was hosted so the GC might have had to go around and delete the no items npcs. Third off, don't stand there and bitch to the GC about pointless stuff. Ever.
8) Well maybe I have no control over auras being on...but it doesn't make me stop in the middle of a game and cost my team goals. Sure I'll type about it when no one's attacking, but I don't get distracted by typing when I should be playing. Apparently you did the opposite in your ctf indoor2 game. But you know something clel....who does have control over items + gotenks captain? THE GC! So when certain items give people an edge....or a certain captain ****s over the game for one team...the gc should do something about it! Novel idea, ey clel?
9) I simply want a fair clean game of ctf between two evenly matched teams. Is that so hard to ask?
10) Like I've said already....bitching about something out of your control is bad teamwork and bad playing. It doesn't take away from your skill, but it certainly takes away from your team's effectiveness.
Clel I'll respond however I want to. Just because you love your little organized number system doesn't mean everyone else loves it. **** numbers. **** math. Don't get mad, get a new diss other than "life support".
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Post by Death Kazama on Oct 7, 2008 8:40:31 GMT -5
Hey Hey Hey... We can all be patriotic about this. how about we go to a bar sit at a table and sip down some mugs? Then we talk about this and eventually we come into an agreement
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Post by gladius on Oct 7, 2008 9:03:51 GMT -5
As long as it's on your tab.
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Post by Death Kazama on Oct 7, 2008 9:05:25 GMT -5
Yeah money is no problem
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Post by gladius on Oct 7, 2008 9:05:58 GMT -5
Mmmm...but where can we all meet?
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Post by Death Kazama on Oct 7, 2008 9:07:45 GMT -5
I am quite sure there are several pubs, bars etc., you name your place I shall just be supplying the ale
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Post by cetellic on Oct 7, 2008 9:54:00 GMT -5
1.Dummy, I'm not trying to argue that. NEVER DID I DENY IT OR ANYTHING. For you to try and argue it just cause I used the term "you say" when addressing it is pure grudge material.
2.Yes, but just because it happened once does not mean OH IT'S TOTALLY UNFAIR!!! Else I should be banned myself cause of how many times I rape defenders.
3.Before you acquire any knowledge on if it's advantageous or not, it's unreleased to the public. Developers using NPCs unreleased to the... bah repeating myself. This point is already thrashed though.
4.Weird and unfair are two different things. We raped his ass ez cuz he was uploading something to youtube, everyone on his team was pissed, did I mind it? No way!!!
5.Not reading all that as it holds no merit to this debate.
6.Look Gladius, you took the word "suck" from the first sentence, suspected it had something to do with skill, and combined it with "hissy fit". There we go I win.
7.Why are you blabbin this? The GC just didn't change their mind either... I must have to explain the whole god thing... Simply put I've already dealt with the situation and pwnt it anyway. Dino boy over here just can't understand that.
8.Stfu and play the game I say. If the GC is stubborn it doesn't look like they're going to try and make teams even right? So you're going to have to prepare for the worse!
9.Tryin to change the subject... point = pwnt.
10.Debate won by Clel folks, I'm out of this junk
One more thing, Gladius respond however you want to, YOU STILL SUCK ASS AT DEBATING!!! Why should I get a new diss? You're simply using life support. Lets see, response #1 = life support... #2 misunderstanding... #3 misunderstanding... #4 life support... #5 life support... #6 life support... #7 life support... #8 life support... #9 life support... #10 answered question... All the life supports are points you've already lost on and thus no reponse should even be made. You cannot understand that and thus want to waste time. This debate's done though, happy holidays ;D
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Post by gladius on Oct 7, 2008 10:53:28 GMT -5
I am quite sure there are several pubs, bars etc., you name your place I shall just be supplying the ale I ment what state, since we all live in different places.
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Post by gladius on Oct 7, 2008 11:06:46 GMT -5
Seems like clel is as egotistical as ever. Just as blind to the truth to.
1) Then what are you trying to argue? Please give me a translation to clel language as I clearly can't keep up with your advanced dialog. /end scarcasm
2) Once? Are we skipping math class again clel? You yourself said that there is always a chance of "it" happening. And a chance implies it is going to happen more than once.
3) Kevin using an npc that has a longer reach than the sword....not fair so not allowed. Oni using a lag ability to move through people....not fair so not allowed. Lyzix using an aura to mask his hp and his actual location....not fair so not allowed. There I connected the dots for you clel. It's not about the dev team using unreleased npcs.
4) It's not about 'if you minded it' or not. It's about whether it was fair or not. It wasn't fair to kill's team, because even mighty said 'it's like playing with 3 people' rather than 4. It wasn't fair to our team because we couldn't see him.
5) No you just don't want to read it because it's true and you can't do anything about it.
6) Like I said in my last post, the first sentance was indoor1 and "suck", the rest was indoor2 and "npcs".
7) Those were options about what could have happened. I'm not saying they did fool. Simply put you bitched about the situation and cost your team some goals. Not good on your part.
8) If the GC does his job maybe we'll have two quality captains and two quality teams so the true skill of the players can decide the matches, rather than lag and bs npcs.
9) Completely on subject.
10) Ignoring my comments again clel. Is that very professional? I doubt it.
Better at debating than your are clel. You can't understand that two equal teams going at it will always be better than two teams going at it with the freedom to pick who they want and how they want to play. Down with noob captains. Down with laggers. Down with npcs that cause lag. Down with ignorant people trying to refute facts that someone named gladius keeps putting up.
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Post by tatsi on Oct 7, 2008 11:39:52 GMT -5
Ok im the best player ever in ctf, ever! i rock so hard in ctf, god damnit i rock!
There, are you all done crying about ctf now?
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Post by cetellic on Oct 7, 2008 11:53:26 GMT -5
1.Don't remember? I told you there's no point in arguing Jade's credibility as a player, your response? OOO JADE SUCKS CUZ BLAH BLAH BLAH. 2.Using a certain tactic against a certain player induced the risk, if you don't use that tactic there is no risk. 3.Lets see what Night has to say about that? Unreleased NPCs are UNRELEASED, they shouldn't even be revealed yet. For Kevin to use unreleased NPCs is a form of staff abuse, that's if you know anything about the dev side of the picture. Now you're going to say "well nu huh it's not staff abuse", it's your only hope you might aswell do it so I can refute that. 4.Despite Kill getting raped you will admit it had some advantage over us, you will also admit it had some disadvantage. Kill knew he was uploading, he knew it effected him, he kept it like so anyway. Bitch more newbie ; ) 5.It has no merit dude, To address it anyway - The player who threw the football over his head in celebration should've known the rules of the game, and should have avoided doing so. I remember years ago my brother (who is deep into football) telling me they were going to start making it a rule not to do that, so for that player to break a rule and then go "WTH MAN NO WAY THAT'S WRONG!!" is no doubt being a bad sport. As you see, it was easily refuted... leave it to Gladius... 6.I asked a question of if hissy fitting was good playing, you started speaking about skill. I can post the quotes as I'm sure it went down like that. 7.Yay I'll save this for later 8.If you'd stop bitchin maybe you can win no matter regardless of what the GC does ;D 9.No, no one gives two craps about your item issues... trying to go "well I just want a fair game" is changing the subject. We're not discussing you wanting a fair game, we're discussing items in CTF. 10.MUHAHAHA PWNT SORRY GLAD, THERE IS NO LATER!!! Lets take it back to a page... something I said previously "As I've been saying from the get go it's all in your head, if you think something is unfair then you're not going to be motivated to play, and it'll run amok." You just admitted lack of motivation pwned me and I was wrong for not being motivated. Therefore lack of motivation pwnz you and everyone else in the same light should you lack motivation. No one cares of the cause, if you lose you lose. It's players who can adapt well who man handle competitive play. Down with you Gladius, you totally raped yourself. "equal teams will always be better then freely chose teams", and you call this junk facts LOLOLOLOLOL I'ma walk away now.
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Post by tatsi on Oct 7, 2008 12:03:45 GMT -5
im still better than all of you, YA YOU CLEL..YOU!
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Post by gladius on Oct 7, 2008 12:09:18 GMT -5
Keep walking clel, but always know school's in session. I'll give you lessons as long as you want.
1) And why would there be no point in argueing her (lack of) credibility?
2) What are you not supposed to even try and top the player then?
3) Ignoring my points again. It's hard to connect the dots any clearly than I did in my last post.
4) Technically the GC should have done something about it. Technically x2 kill turned it off late in the match but it was too late by that point.
5) Lets see...the dude was celebrating like anyone would have...he scored a clutch TD to tie the game up with little time left...everyone knows it wasn't "excessive celebration" or even "unsportsmanlike" in any way...he wasn't taunting or anything...no reason to throw a flag there. Nice attempt at a refute but you failed.
6) I responded that hissy fitting was not a good play but doesn't damage your skill. It just hurts your team.
7) Jesus is the only one who saves.
8) If you would make sure the teams were fair everyone could enjoy a good game of ctf.
9) Does no one else have those item issues? It seems unfair to me when items seem to **** me over and not other people. I'd be nice to know if i'm the only one to have that happen to them.
10) Not very professional at all.
People who are deliberately not trying are usually kicked by GCs. It's tough to kick an entire team when they aren't trying because a certain GC let a certain noob captain pick a sub-par team though. Game was a waste of time though.
Two equally skilled teams > teams that pick jade before kill vs a quality team. Fact.
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Post by tatsi on Oct 7, 2008 12:13:56 GMT -5
Man im so much better than all of you, pay attention students , open up your text books to the chapter concerning me kicking all your butts in ctf
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Post by gladius on Oct 7, 2008 14:00:16 GMT -5
Technically all three of us are high tier
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