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Post by MysticX2X on Nov 1, 2008 7:32:02 GMT -5
You think you won a debate and locked it? Are you that much of a wuss to even get a rebuttal? Cmon man, you're getting sadder by the day.
For one i do think you are being stupid. You have pretty arrogant views in your debates and your rebuttals always fail when we play in ctf games. I don't know where you are getting at.
I'm not trying to play it safe with Gladius for the third damn time. His points are a bit extreme too which is why i said he appears to be one. Appears is basically calling somebody something. Learn some damn logic.
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Post by kill on Nov 1, 2008 7:40:05 GMT -5
As much as I believe Clel is right more than 85% of the time, this time it's Glads' win. A game of CTF should be fair, to make it fair you need even/equal teams to balance things out. Yesterday, it was Gotenks, Death, Silverice and me vs Shimmy, Yump, Lakuta and Mystic... I really don't see how that's fair at all... Nonetheless we tried our best but still lost what? 15-8?
Glad is also right about laggers: if they can go right through you [on your screen], how is that fair?! their upload/download speeds may vary, but the fact of the matter is: it's not fair. So not excluding lag in your events will not make things enjoyable for the opposition, and the whole point of GC is to provide entertainment + fair teams? :\
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Post by MysticX2X on Nov 1, 2008 7:49:33 GMT -5
I changed the mode from sumo to xsumo for a reason.
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Post by cetellic on Nov 1, 2008 8:08:18 GMT -5
Kill you misunderstand. I'm not saying games should not be fair. If they can go through me on my screen and that's illegal, then you hitting me from miles away (on my screen) should be illegal as well. It's technically not fair, hey I have 500ms, games I play in are never fair - if you're on my team you're pretty much screwed over.
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Post by cetellic on Nov 1, 2008 8:10:07 GMT -5
For one i do think you are being stupid. You have pretty arrogant views in your debates and your rebuttals always fail when we play in ctf games. I don't know where you are getting at. they're not supposed to take action in a CTF game. See, you'd call that a refute too. I'm not trying to play it safe with Gladius for the third damn time. His points are a bit extreme too which is why i said he appears to be one. Appears is basically calling somebody something. Learn some damn logic. It doesn't matter appears is a common way of softening blows, we all know it, get it over it.
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Post by gladius on Nov 1, 2008 8:38:47 GMT -5
Since you locked the thread I can't quote your paragraph correctly, but oh well:
You misunderstand me. Laggers don't have skills because they don't need to use them. You don't need skills when you can recoil forward instead of down in sumo, escaping bases easy. You don't need skills to move through someone when you can just hold your up key until you are pushed through them from behind. Now that thor doesn't lag anymore (he still has reach but that's a different discussion), his true skills have come out. He's like gotenks when Guru or w/e on namic awakened his powers. No longer can he use his weird recoil to move foward through the choke when he is hit downwards in ctf sumo. Now he has to use skillz that killz, dodging when necessary and using his sword when needed.
Clel really you didn't need to close the other thread tbh. It wasn't getting out of control language wise or topic wise or anything. But w/e.
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Post by cetellic on Nov 1, 2008 8:43:45 GMT -5
You misunderstand me. Laggers don't have skills because they don't need to use them. Alright lets hear it! You don't need skills when you can recoil forward instead of down in sumo, escaping bases easy. HO HO HO Any player can do that! Bomb explosion, forced recoiled, easy hit during hardcore spars, why is that impossible pal?! You don't need skills to move through someone when you can just hold your up key until you are pushed through them from behind. WAIT WAIT WAIT!!! Anyone can do that one too! If you clog everyone around someone but the person everyone's slashing at is "inside" another player they'll be hit through the person they're "inside", HOW COME I PULLED THAT OFF IN MY 50ms DAYS?!?! In fact when I'm defending people do that to me all the time, laggy or not, totally unfair I think we should kick everyone who pulls that cheat! Clel really you didn't need to close the other thread tbh. It wasn't getting out of control language wise or topic wise or anything. But w/e. Well, with this thread I'm doing quick ASAP pwnz on the claims you guys make =) so forcing everything over here is much neater
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Post by gladius on Nov 1, 2008 8:51:17 GMT -5
You heard it.
A) it's not xmas yet and B) fool it doesn't happen to any player like it does to laggers. Even if "any player" can do it like you claim, it seems to happen to laggers a hell of a lot more often.
Unless it's a female character, I see no reason why someone would be "inside" another player. Besides, how would they get "inside" the other player?
Right.
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Post by cetellic on Nov 1, 2008 9:17:50 GMT -5
No PK Zones players can move through one another. If one player is directly on top of another WHAM!!!! They're inside one another OHNOES!!!
Who cares what laggers get alot more often, they get in base easier, and out easier, but they also get larger hit boxes which is why Oni was gettin raped on offense that one game
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Post by gladius on Nov 1, 2008 9:31:02 GMT -5
Is ctf a no-pk zone? I don't think so. So much for that point.
Why should a GC let players play when they get into bases easier and get out easier? Doesn't seem very fair to everyone else who's playing fair.
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Post by cetellic on Nov 1, 2008 9:33:54 GMT -5
Is ctf a no-pk zone? I don't think so. So much for that point. Why should a GC let players play when they get into bases easier and get out easier? Doesn't seem very fair to everyone else who's playing fair. Because when they get out they GET RAPED!!! It can happen in no pk zones aswell, all it takes is getting close to someone, getting smacked a bit, and OMG YOU'RE INSIDE!!! AH!!!
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Post by gladius on Nov 1, 2008 10:16:33 GMT -5
Yeah after they score.
Last time I checked, when two players walk into each other, they press against each other like two rams headbutting.
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Post by aerox on Nov 1, 2008 12:31:47 GMT -5
We should just close every form of CTF and save these endless discussions about lag, tiers cheaters,tappers and other bullpoo. Not ever have i seen so much drama about a little event, that started out great but really has turned into the shape of what the server is in, only this time it is the player that has brought it to this level, not the admins.
Many of the current people in GC's are not at one level, they see things different while you suppose to be a team. GC's should not mess with how others host, should not be messing around in topics where someone makes a complaint.
That is the big difference between " now" and " then" , back "then" when someone had a complaint about a gc member, or something else it was the admin who acted, nowadays all you nubtards react on any type of complaint. No wonder why Night never responds to complaints, he has like 3 crybabies that will do it for him "mystic,clel,mystic" should i name more?
Many of the current GC's are seeking a way of making the other look like a fool, while it used to be " a team" .
The current spirit of this team has turned into " me myself and I" and nothing else.
You pooheads should start working together instead of moving yourself into endless discussions over little bullpoo.
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Post by gladius on Nov 1, 2008 14:17:44 GMT -5
Yeah because we totally need to work together when hosting events because they are too complex for our inferior minds.
Wtf do you want us to work together on dawg?
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Post by Luda on Nov 1, 2008 14:31:28 GMT -5
up shut **** up
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